I've been playing with suckless tools: dwm, dmenu, st, surf
Dwm and dmenu are fantastic, st and surf not so much.
Both st and surf have patches that are incompatible, and often outdated. The user is expected to know how to correct the patch rejections, which is often possible, but knowledge of C is your best bet.
Suckless software is intended to be somewhat elite. Their web site is frankly not suckless, perhaps intentionally? Some of the patches proposed address problems that have already been solved in the main program.
Surf compiles but with GTK warnings about obsolete functions.
St is a headbanger if you want kittygraphics, boxdraw, and ligatures for example.
The educational aspect of suckless software is of course is invaluable, and if it's the objective, then that's fine. The problem arises when you want to build something that will fulfill your needs.
Because of all this I use Kitty or Ghostty instead of st, and Librewolf instead of Surf. I just hope dwm doesn't fall into the same hole of wanting to be elite to the point of not fulfilling it's task, which would be a terrible shame.
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